Everybody knows the old saying-"you get what you pay for",thats certainly true of these boots.They are nowhere near the quality of 'Destroy'.I'd rather pay the extra 50pnds or so too get the quality,than make do with these.They look clumsier as well,with the sole being concertinered instead of strraight.Sorry,but Im still pining for them to bring back my 'destroy'. RESPONSE FROM SHOE ENVY: Hopefully you won't have to wait much longer, we are hoping we may have Destroy back soon :)